The Uncanny Coffee Hour with Dr Kitsune and Odd Bob
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The Uncanny Coffee Hour with Dr Kitsune and Odd Bob
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The shadows in the corners of your vision aren't always empty. Sometimes they hold secrets, whispers, and things that are best left unseen.
We've all experienced it—that fleeting dark figure glimpsed from the corner of your eye that vanishes when you turn to look directly at it. Are these merely tricks of the light, or something more sinister? In this captivating episode, we explore the phenomenon of shadow people, those mysterious dark entities that have terrified and fascinated people across cultures for generations.
Saoirse guides us through the uncanny world of these beings, explaining how they appear in various forms—from wisps of darkness to solid figures with glowing eyes. Some shadow entities seem mindless, drawn to places of darkness and despair, while others demonstrate an unsettling intelligence, watching and waiting with purpose. Most disturbingly, these entities may feed on our emotions, growing stronger with our fear.
Bob shares his chilling personal encounter with a static-like shadow figure that appeared during a particularly stressful period in his life, leaving him temporarily paralyzed but determined to spiritually defend himself. We also hear from Kristen Parr, who describes encountering the same tall, slender shadow figure on two separate camping trips a year apart, in completely different locations.
Whether you're a skeptic or a believer, this episode offers fascinating insights into one of the most common yet unexplained paranormal phenomena. Is there more to these experiences than sleep paralysis or tricks of light? Are shadow people manifestations of our own fears, interdimensional travelers, or something else entirely?
Remember, when you gaze into the darkness, the darkness gazes back. Listen if you dare, and join the conversation about what might be lurking just beyond your peripheral vision.
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Speaker 4:Come on, get evil cause. There's nothing else to do. Coming to you, live from the flooded fields east of Springfield. Welcome to the Dr Kitsune Odd Bob Uncanny Coffee Hour, brought to you this week by Dr Kitsune's Wondrous Wellness Tea. This is not your Meemaw's old-timey snake oil. Just one use Makes you feel better when you're under the weather. Get some today. Uh-huh baby. Get some Uh-huh.
Speaker 5:Hey, Previously, on Dr Kitsune and Odd Bob's Uncanny Coffee Hour, Mitch and Saoirse. Let's just say they had a disagreement, A disagreement that involved Mitch vanishing and Saoirse well, she was being Saoirse enjoying another Pacific Northwest craft beer. Mmm beer. Sorry, I digress A short while later. Wait, was it really a short while later? In the liminal spaces, does time even have meaning? Step into the fog and let's join the conversation in progress. You're here.
Speaker 4:How did you get here? You wondering why Saoirse looks so sullen over there in the corner.
Speaker 6:Oh, you're the one gonna be glum, chum.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean. Well, our lovely young lady sent me to go visit her parents.
Speaker 6:Oh, the worst place I could think of at the time Me parents' place. Yeah, it's quaint, think rustic charm meets actively haunted. One day the kitchen is a granite slab with a campfire, the next it's a tree hollow with a badger in the pantry. You never know what you're gonna get. Oh, and don't even get me started on the plumbing. It's all streams and waterfalls, and well, let's just say you learn to hold it until you find a convenient patch of moss.
Speaker 4:Oh no.
Speaker 6:It's great if you don't mind the occasional ghost or fairy party.
Speaker 3:Dave just threw up.
Speaker 6:And Dad. He's always got the History Channel on, no matter what form the house takes. One minute it's ancient aliens playing on a glowing mushroom, the next it's Vikings blaring from a waterfall screen. Apparently, the Druids had phallic spaceships, or so he claims. Honestly, I've stopped asking questions. Yes, it was a lovely time.
Speaker 4:Thank you, so he claims Honestly, I've stopped asking questions. Yes, it was a lovely time, thank you.
Speaker 6:Thank me. You were supposed to be learning a lesson.
Speaker 4:I enjoyed them very much. They're very kind people.
Speaker 5:They are yes they are. I mean sorry, well, they're puka. I didn't mean it like that.
Speaker 4:They're puka but they're fine, kind puka, they're Puka, they're good people. Yeah, they're puka, I didn't mean it like that? Yeah, they're puka, but they're kind puka, they're good people.
Speaker 6:Yeah, they like you.
Speaker 4:By the way, Saoirse, I didn't tell you earlier. They did send you a letter.
Speaker 6:What Now? Don't be giving me face as long as a lurking spade.
Speaker 4:You want me to read it to you.
Speaker 6:No.
Speaker 4:No, no, I'll read it. No, I'll read it.
Speaker 6:Now you be giving me that, if you know what's good for you.
Speaker 3:Dearest Saoirse.
Speaker 6:Fine then.
Speaker 4:I hope you are having a lovely time on Turtle Island. Do give our relatives our best regards. Thank you so much for the company of your young friend Mitchell.
Speaker 6:Mitchell.
Speaker 4:He was the most amazing guest. See, they liked me.
Speaker 6:You trickster.
Speaker 4:We so enjoyed his stories and his cooking. He made us the tastiest vegetarian meal we have ever eaten. Who would have thought vegetarians would taste so good? He told us about your podcast project and played a few episodes. What the hell, why are you using that posh Scottish accent? Are you ashamed of your Irish upbringing? And you be nicer to him. He is a sweet young man and should be taken care of. Blah, blah, blah, blah blah. Your brother is having a baby, by the way, with that cute little banshee out of Leitrim.
Speaker 6:Oh no, he's no good for her.
Speaker 4:Love and kisses Mum and Dad.
Speaker 6:Ugh. Why do they care what shape and accent I take? You've lifted the veil and there's no turning back now, but don't worry, as long as the drinks keep flowing and the stories keep coming, I might just spare you a few of my more spirited transformations.
Speaker 4:I know it's difficult. I would much prefer your true accent over one that's made up.
Speaker 5:Oh, actually, I have a great idea let's talk about what we're drinking and then we can get into whatever the subject is for this week, and you can tell us all about.
Speaker 6:I could do that, or I could turn you into a badger and leave you in a bog, which sounds more appealing. I need a drink.
Speaker 4:You're going for whiskey, not beer, today.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 5:Good thing, we have some of those writer's tears left over. You've pushed her into the whiskey realm. Now, Mitch, oh come on.
Speaker 4:We're all family here.
Speaker 6:Tis true, you wear your skins well, but the scent of the wild is unmistakable.
Speaker 4:And, by the way, this is a safe space. I know which side of the hedge I belong on and it's right in the middle of the hedge with all the other survivors.
Speaker 6:Oh, you want the real me, do you? You wish for a tale in my true form? Be warned For, as, with you to me, I begin to see what you are now.
Speaker 7:listen for my form is here, you drunken bastards. My roots run deep, as deep as the roots of the oldest oak in the heart of the emerald isle. I am a child of this land, born of its myths and legends, full of wild beauty and untamed spirit. What are we doing for this segment? We call what the Idgits Be Drinking.
Speaker 5:Today, what are we drinking? What are you drinking? Well, I'm drinking a lovely espresso coffee with hemp milk.
Speaker 4:Hemp milk. Yeah, that is a milk, isn't it?
Speaker 5:It's a.
Speaker 4:Where do you get hemp milk from?
Speaker 5:Well, currently I get it from either an organic food store or from my local coffee shop.
Speaker 4:Is there any other kind of milk available?
Speaker 5:Yeah, there's lots of different milk available, other kind of milk available yeah, there's lots of different milk available.
Speaker 4:What kind of milk?
Speaker 5:All of them, all milk, all milk. What are you looking at?
Speaker 4:I choose hemp milk, hemp milk. Well, I am drinking because of our. What we're talking about today? We're talking about shadow people and things from the dark side there that are not all seen.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, that's why I chose espresso with him.
Speaker 4:Oh, it's dark yeah so I'm actually drinking lapsang suchan from uh jt down in friendly street. Thank you, josh, for pointing it out to me and thank you for the lovely gift. It's been years since we've seen each other. Josh is an old friend from uh back when I was at the university and a really great guy. It was great catching up. You know just good time. He's cool, he knows his stuff and makes some really good tea down there. He he roasts it right there on the spot.
Speaker 5:Oh, very cool.
Speaker 4:So, um so sure, you want to tell us what is the uncanny definition of like like hat man or like uh, there was that internet one, Uh, what was he called Slender man.
Speaker 7:Oh, thanks for that, saoirse. What's that? Your name is Saoirse. Well, please, and thank you, saoirse, you want to know about the tall skinny one? I've seen him. He's quite the awkward dancer, all stiff and silent. Uh, nah, I'm only cutting you, it's a hoax. Nah, I'm only codding you, it's a hoax.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I know that was a hoax, but I believe Slenderman was a representation of a being that was already out there, or the Dark.
Speaker 5:Watchers.
Speaker 7:The way they stare at me with that blank look. It'll always be bugging me out.
Speaker 4:Los Vigilantes Oscuros. What are those people that live underneath Shasta called? I don't know, the little white people. They're tall white people actually, you mean.
Speaker 5:Norwegian tourists. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. So I think what you're thinking of is the Lemura, lemurians, lemurians, that's right.
Speaker 4:Lemurians, that of is the Lemurians.
Speaker 7:Lemurians, that's right.
Speaker 4:Lemurians, that's right, lemurians. Something about a hidden city called Telos and that's underneath the mountain.
Speaker 5:Yeah, there's a lot of interesting, uncanny, odd things that seem to happen around Mount Shasta.
Speaker 4:Have you ever seen the lenticular cloud above shasta? I have not. It's. It's really cool. It looks like a long god give me patience lenticular object yeah, like a cigar, almost like a okay or like the classic ufo. It's really cool.
Speaker 5:All right, so Shadow People Hat man Dark, whatever we said, dark Watchers.
Speaker 4:Dark Watchers. Yeah, I don't know why I can't remember that You're just thinking about me with a pair of binoculars now.
Speaker 5:Yeah, Give us the rundown, if you would please, Saoirse.
Speaker 7:Alrighty then. Beer me Just needs a bit more of a melancholy touch.
Speaker 2:Ah, shadow beings, you mortals, and your fascination with the dark. You see a flicker in the corner of your eye, a shape that isn't quite there, a dust particle on your camera lens, and you immediately jump to ghosts or demons. How very human. You're not entirely wrong, just missing a few key details. They come in many forms, you see. Some are wisps of darkness, fleeting and ephemeral, like smoke in a breeze. Others are solid, almost tangible, with eyes that gleam like embers in the night. Some are mindless, drawn to places of darkness and despair like moths to a flame. Then there are others. Others are intelligent, aware and watching, and they know. You can see them.
Speaker 2:Emotions are potent like dark magic. Sorrow, fear and anger can manifest as shadow beings. They feed on your energy, your emotions, your very essence. The more you fear them, them, the stronger they become. So be careful. What you dwell on. Your thoughts can cast long shadows. Now, if you see one, don't panic. That only feeds them. Instead, try ignoring them. Pretend they're a particularly persistent dust bunny or, if you're feeling brave, tell them to go away. A firm voice, a touch of authority. Sometimes they're just looking for attention. Sometimes Well, sometimes they're looking for something else entirely. Remember, the shadows are not always empty. They hold secrets, whispers and things that are best left unseen. But curiosity is a powerful thing, isn't it? Remember, when you gaze into the darkness, the darkness gazes into you.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's, that's creepy.
Speaker 7:Now, Bob, shadows are a part of us all, you know. They are the echoes of our fears, the whispers of our doubts. Sharing your story might just lighten the load, or perhaps it will make them heavier. Either way, it will be entertaining the load, or perhaps it will make them heavier.
Speaker 5:Either way, it will be entertaining. Go on then give out. Um, I was probably in my 30s, so you know, like two years ago, so many years ago, um and uh, you know I've we've had a little bit of a stressful existence just because our kids have special needs. It takes a lot out of you, you know. You're emotionally, you get tired a lot. So it was a particularly hard day.
Speaker 5:I went to lay down and go to sleep. I went to lay down and go to sleep. I fell asleep and I was awoken by this figure standing next to me, like right next to me, and I couldn't move and they were, uh, human size, but not, um, overly imposing or anything. And it was solid. Well, it was black, but kind of staticky, like you couldn't see any features. It was like, if you took the sort of static that you would see on an old time TV, right when the channel's not coming in, and it's kind of staticky Like the ant races, yeah, but make it like really, really dark, okay, right, so it was mostly black, but there was these little staticky particles everywhere as well and it was just standing there right next to me and I immediately felt like I had to repel this being so. I was just screaming out with my mind like no, no.
Speaker 5:And I actually woke my wife up because I managed to vocalize something where I was like, or something you know enough to like wake her up. And then she was like what's going on? And I looked over at her and when I looked back, the shadow person was gone.
Speaker 4:So classic night terror.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but I mean, I didn't feel like there was anything sitting on my chest or anything like that. It was just that they were standing there and they were observing me. But I also had the feeling that there was some sort of malicious intent and that I had to guard myself spiritually, essentially, like I didn't not, not physically, I didn't have my hands up or anything, I couldn't move anything, but I had to sort of like project this. You know, no, that I'm, I'm putting up a barrier.
Speaker 4:You need to go away, like get out of here so you couldn't see make out a face or any facial features or anything, or no, and it wasn't.
Speaker 5:It was three-dimensional, yeah, but imagine, the best way I can describe it is like take somebody that's a person wrap them in black cloth like really dark black cloth, completely yeah and then project like static on top of them, like it was like that, okay.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and they didn't say anything, or no? All right.
Speaker 7:Well done you. It stirs the echoes of the unseen. Be careful, though, for stories have a way of becoming real.
Speaker 5:So we, oh, go ahead. Oh, I was going to say we have some stories from a friend of yours that included some that were shadow person-like.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that would be Kristen Parr. I spoke with her the other night on the phone and she agreed to let me record the phone call, so do you want to go into that?
Speaker 5:yeah, why don't we play that? And we'll um, you know we'll talk about that in a bit.
Speaker 4:Yeah, all right, sounds good yeah yes, my name is kristin parr.
Speaker 1:I'm cayuse indian from pendleton, oregon. One time, uh, victor and I went up there camping alone and when we got up there nobody was up there. That weekend there was nobody staying up there. We got lucky except the caretaker, and he was at the end, at the beginning of the camp when you go in, but we stayed way down at the end where the Indians stay.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And we had our tent in our little favorite spot and it was starting to rain a little bit. Well, first it wasn't raining, so we had the cover off the top of the tent where you could see through, you know, the sky. So we were like laying in the bed and, like you know, victor is one of those dudes that as soon as his head hits the pillow, like he's dead, like it's just no, you don't hear nothing, you don't see nothing. Like nothing wakes them up and I was like dying because something. I heard something. I saw these, these headlights, and they were going forward and when I looked out, there was no cars, there was nobody there and I was like what the hell is going on?
Speaker 1:And then, uh, right, when we, when I was laying down, all of a sudden this, uh, this thunderstorm started. Right, you could hear the thunder, and so we could tell, because it was cloudy, it was going to start raining, but you could hear the thunder. But then the thunder started rolling and then it felt like as if the thunder if, if you were thinking of the thunder as a cloud moving forward it felt like it hit a wall and stopped, and so it didn't continue, that full thunder sound that you hear when the thunder rolls all the way to the end, like that full roll, it just like felt like it was bluntly stopped and it was really weird, like something was really trippy going on in the sky, right. So I was like, oh no. So I was laying there and I was trying to get victor to wake up to listen, but he wouldn't listen.
Speaker 1:And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere I am not lying right at the tree top, right at the very top of the trees, and they're not that tall uh, there was a, some sort of a um, flying vessel, I don't even know what you want to call that, but it had one engine in the back, it was circle, not two. It had one in the middle, in the back, and like it was literally quiet in the sky. We were the only ones there. And all of a sudden, just like I don't know how to describe it, but at the tree, so maybe, like maybe 10 feet before the tree, you could hear the motor and I was like how the frick? Because you know it was like you would have heard it coming, because the motor was like, it was like a weird sound. It wasn't like a jet, it wasn't a airplane, and I was like what the shit is happening, okay, so then then it starts getting really creepy.
Speaker 1:So then, uh, it started, right literally as the thing flew by, it started raining and so I, victor, did wake up and we put the top on the tent and we got in and then, right when I then he fell back asleep and I was still awake a little bit and I looked over and there was a shadow of something and we were in a spot where there was no trees right there to make a shadow, and it wasn't there before, when we had put, before we had put the top on, and, um, there was this shadow and it was like a silhouette, but you couldn't see like rounded shoulder muscles or things like that. It was like a block. It was like a block head with like block shoulders, like square. So I didn't think it was like a person or something, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like I didn't think, oh, somebody's walking, and there was. They were making no sound and they were not moving. They were just standing there, just standing there. It was just standing. The shadow was just standing there. So I was thinking, oh, I'm just seeing things, you know what I'm saying. I'm just seeing things like you know, because it's like the middle of your rational you know what I mean you know, cause it's like the middle of you know what I mean, you know.
Speaker 1:And so I'm just like sitting there trying to think, okay, okay, I'm not, but every fricking hair on the back of my neck and my arms was like standing straight up, like I felt so scared, like I was like what is happening and I don't know what's going on, and um, and it was like it stood like that for a while I had to make myself go to sleep. But what's trippy, mitch? Okay, so then nothing happened, right? So then the next day, like it didn't come back the next night or anything, and we went home. So what's trippy is the next year, the year later and a half, because we went, because this was like no, like a year later, because it was like we went camping like beginning of june and culture camp was in july, and so a year later when we did culture camp, we had our tent in a different spot. Okay, it was way in a different spot. Okay, it was way in a different spot and there was no. You know how sometimes they have those old, disgusting black grills.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:At each campsite. So we were like you know, we at first, you know, when I was trying to rationalize, I was thinking, oh, it's probably just the shadow of that, somehow, but it was not that shape or whatever, right, but anyway. So we moved and we're in a different spot in this time. Nothing was around us, okay, and our tent. There was not even any trees right by us, it was all. The trees were way over to the left.
Speaker 1:So the way shadows went, the shadows go to the left. You know what I mean? Where the light is, or if there is light. I don't understand, I don't know how the moonlight, so the moonlight, makes the shadows go left. So nothing was going, nothing was shadowing in our tent at all and I swear to god, it was that same figure. I got up to p and right, when I sat up and I looked over, I noticed it was that same figure, that same exact shadow was there. It wasn't there before and I was just like, oh my god, we're gonna die, we're gonna die, we're like we're gonna get abducted or something. Maybe we did. I don't, don't even know, mitch, you know that I mean I all I and I had to pee, so bad, but I just I didn't even go because I was like no, not even going to go out of the tent or anything Reminiscent of culture camp days.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was terrible, it was crazy and scary and yeah, it was like two or three in the morning and so I was like this is how I know that that shadow was that something before, because it was literally the same thing, the same shape.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And it was a year later and we were in a totally different spot, so it couldn't have been the same shadow, you know what do you think it was?
Speaker 4:I mean, if you were to not rationalize it, not use your scientific mind, I think it was an alien.
Speaker 1:I think it was something alien or it wasn't Bigfoot, because there was no smell, there was nothing like that, and it was really teeny and skinny. It was very skinny Sticking in, but it was really tall. It was like six foot. It was like a six foot tall shadow. And it was very skinny and slender.
Speaker 4:That's what I was going to ask. Do you have any stories up there about something like the Slenderman?
Speaker 1:No, never heard of that. But don't even say that. I'm like gosh. We're never going back, are we? No, it's fine.
Speaker 7:Oops, I seem to have spilled me beer on your rainbow mixer board. Well, I'm sure it will still sound just as good as it did earlier in the episode.
Speaker 5:So what do you think that was? I don't know, I mean.
Speaker 7:Yeah, what do you think it was?
Speaker 4:I don't know, yeah, I trust Kristen and I've been up there to where she was talking about, and there's a lot of things that go on up there that are unexplainable. I do know that when the kids were up there, I told some stories and got them all to pee themselves, so that's that's we got that going.
Speaker 5:Maybe it's a side effect of the shadow person, shadow being yeah, make people.
Speaker 4:I don't to pee or pee themselves. I do know that she got really freaked out when I mentioned the Slender man. Yeah, so you never know. I still think that that is more than just an internet hoax. I think that the hoax is based on some sort of archetypal being shadow person that's out there.
Speaker 7:Yeah, weren't your girlfriends through university shadow beings.
Speaker 4:Who knows? Yeah, I do know that in future episodes we've got people that are going to be talking to us about hat man, yeah, and we've got some other shadow people stories. We've got ghost stories that are coming up, that are that are going to fill quite a few more episodes.
Speaker 5:We've got ghost stories up the wazoo.
Speaker 7:Wait up your whatchasey then.
Speaker 4:And I do have a couple of shadow people stories that I might share. I do know that a couple of the people I've interviewed already have talked about ghosts and about shadow people. Yeah, so, saoirse, what do you think about it?
Speaker 7:Ghosts, ah, those poor souls trapped between worlds, come closer. Let me whisper a secret. Sometimes, on a moonless night, I like to pretend I'm one.
Speaker 4:All right.
Speaker 5:Okay then.
Speaker 7:Okay then.
Speaker 5:Well, I think that's the end of this episode, okay, and we will see you all next time. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 7:Thanks for nothing.
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Speaker 6:I think it was good Okay.
